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Channy
@Channy
06/07/14 16:54:34
11 posts

How to grow cacao at home


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I also have a little cacao tree. I haven't had it long- probably 2 months. We haven't really given it enough attention and it's not going so well. It's about to get really cold here in South Australia- was wondering if anyone has any tips to keeping it at the right temperatures and humidity Should I just buy or build something to house it in and keep it at the right conditions?

Miguel Pujols
@Miguel Pujols
05/20/14 21:45:15
20 posts

How to grow cacao at home


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hello Lorna, it's interesting to hear that you are trying to grow cacao plants. Unfortunately the cacao trees are very sensitive and require specific geographic and weather conditions.

The good news are that with technology we have been able to recreate such conditions for the trees to grow strong and healthy. In regards to the height, it is not really important, the height will be dependant from the variety that you are growing.

I have some good information about planting, growing and harvesting cacao but most of it is in Spanish. I consider this two links will be very helpful for you, take your time to review them

Growing Cacao (FAO)

Growing Cacao (ICCO)

This includes all what you need to have high quality cacao beans (in recommended conditions).

Sera
@Sera
03/04/08 18:18:52
39 posts

How to grow cacao at home


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Oh cool! Sounds like you profited from a unique opportunity there. :)
Lorna
@Lorna
03/04/08 08:01:48
15 posts

How to grow cacao at home


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I got it at a greenhouse sale at San Francisco State University while I was studying ecology there. I rarely see them at sales elsewhere since.
Sera
@Sera
03/03/08 20:44:55
39 posts

How to grow cacao at home


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

That's so cool! May I ask where you bought it?
Lorna
@Lorna
03/03/08 11:42:25
15 posts

How to grow cacao at home


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I've had a Theobroma cacao for a couple of years now and have been keeping it not only alive, but occasionally flowering. Since my move to Michigan, I lost a branch and started getting brown tips on all the leaves. It's still putting out new leaves, but only about one flower or two in months. I have it near (but not too near) the heater and spray it all the time.I wish I could take this tree to the next level maybe get some height (it's about 2.5 feet) or at least loose the brown tips. I'm working on building it a little greenhouse. I don't ever expect pods, but at least a green, growing tree to add to my botanical assortment.Anyone else have a tree and want to discuss?
updated by @Lorna: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Aura
@Aura
04/04/14 16:48:05
17 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

We are a bean to Bar Maker in Canada who should be added to this list

ambrosiapastry.com

thibault fregoni2
@thibault fregoni2
11/10/13 18:59:46
4 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Just wanted to add "Matale Chocolate" to the Australian bean to bar list.... www.matalechocolate.com

Tao Watts
@Tao Watts
10/15/13 09:44:08
10 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Hola,

How do I add our company to your data base of Bean to Bar chocolate makers? SAMARITAN XOCOLATA, Perez Zeledon, Costa Rica. 100% organic, Costa Rican, hand-crafted chocolate.

Robert Quilter
@Robert Quilter
07/21/12 09:05:27
4 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Does anyone know what Hotel Chocolate come under, British or American ? Or? Rob
Brady
@Brady
03/27/11 10:00:29
42 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Hi Louis,

What is the relationship between Ki Xocolatl and CACEP, a chocolate manufacturer in Tabasco?Is Ki Xocolatl subcontracting CACEP for the manufacturing? FYI, I live in Battery Park City, so I will try to attend the Battery Place Market tasting on April 3.

Brady

Ernesto Bugarin Pantua Jr.
@Ernesto Bugarin Pantua Jr.
03/27/11 06:25:00
24 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Any Asian Entry?
Louis Varela
@Louis Varela
03/26/11 13:19:58
7 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

You forgot to include Ki Xocolatl.

Ki Xocolatl is a bean-to-bar manufacturer in Merida, Mexico. They also grow their own cacao in a vast plantation in the heart of the Yucatan peninsula. And they have an office in New York to distribute their chocolates.

This is their website: www.ki-xocolatl.com . This is the site for the Plantacion Tikul: www.ecomuseodelcacao.com . You can get their chocolates from Amazon.com. And if you are interested in wholesale, you can contact them by email at info@casa-catherwood.com or mexicanchocolatecompany@gmail.com .

Louis

BAstiaan
@BAstiaan
03/14/11 03:38:30
1 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Hi Guys, I guess we can also add Ananda Chocolate to this list? The Bio/FT arriba cacao bar dressed in a home compostable foil... 100% produced in country of origine, being Ecuador. Ananda Chocolate

Benoit N
@Benoit N
02/06/11 02:27:06
14 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Belcolade
Casey
@Casey
02/04/11 20:12:42
54 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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What about Vestri and Cacao Sampaka?

As far as I know, there are only claims that Vestri is tree to bar, in that they own their own plantation. But in the case of Sampaka, it seems to me I've heard both claims that they are bean to bar, and claims to the contrary.

Casey
@Casey
01/18/11 16:22:45
54 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I added those I mentioned in my reply just above to the master list, plus made made these and all the other newer additions hyperlinks. I have not added Salazon, as I'm slightly suspicious of this company.

For example, this from their FAQ

"Why dont you make milk chocolate?
At Salazon we see chocolate as an energy food not candy, so we simply stay away from offering sweeter, more candy-like milk chocolate. "

And what is their chosen default percentage for this "dark" chocolate? 54%!!

But that may be too bitter for many, so

"However, we do understand that some people may want a touch more sweetness so we created our Organic Dark Chocolate with Sea Salt and Organic Turbinado Sugar bar."

Also, there seems to be nothing on the website with any information on who these people are, not even their names, and no information about or photos of their chocolate making process. Except that they are the "Salazon Chocolate Co Team," which consists of "a group of us were on a backpacking trip to Utah."

Therefore, who knows who they are, or if they grasp "bean to bar" meaning.

btw, has anyone tried their chocolates? I see they are available at Whole Foods.

ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
01/09/11 07:41:41
251 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Is Vivani in Germany a bean to bar company? I suspect that they are fondeurs, but I'd like to make sure. I gleaned from their website that they are owned by Ludwig Weinrich, and marketed by their subsidiary EcoFinia GmbH. They said that Weinrich has made chocolate for over 100 years, but they make no mention of actually being b2b. In addition, my very low enjoyment of their dark chocolate (72% bar, my enjoyment rating = 2 out of 10.) makes me suspect that they didn't make it themself. Does anyone have any more information about this?
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
01/09/11 07:32:24
251 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Thanks Casey. I've added a few of those that I didn't have to my personal list of b2b companies. I've got a list of 284 companies that are bean to bar, fondeurs, or some mixture. Some I don't know what they are.
Casey
@Casey
01/06/11 17:27:30
54 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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I wonder if we ought to add Mindo, Snake and Butterfly, Potomac, Salazon, all newer US makers claiming to be b2b, but I have not exactly called them up to quiz them... Isn't there someone on this list also who says they make b2b, Oakland Chocolate Company?

This list is going to be getting so long as small b2b increase exponentially over the next years, so can I just add my grandma's home brew now? She sells to her Mahjong club.

ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
01/06/11 10:19:19
251 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Is Bernard Castelain a bean-to-bar maker or a fondeur? Their website is only in French and I don't read French. I suspect that they're a fondeur but I don't currently have any evidence either way. All I know is that their chocolate wrappers don't say anywhere that they are b2b.
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
01/06/11 10:12:56
251 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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RE: http://australianrawqacao.com/australian-raw-qacao-cacao-fruit-bean

Qacao sounds to me like a lot of Quackery mixed with spiritual mumbo jumbo.


updated by @ChocoFiles: 09/07/15 18:28:16
Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
01/05/11 19:09:07
81 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I've found and Australian Certified Organic farm listed as producing Cocao in Killaloe QLD but as yet had no reply from them.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
01/05/11 17:07:02
1,698 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Unfortunately, the content of the site is so poorly written, edited, proofread, and fact-checked that it's self-marginalizing and comes off as very fringe - even farther out than most on this subject. It will be interesting to see how the business takes off.
Tom
@Tom
01/05/11 15:02:58
205 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Yeah, I saw that the other day too, don't know who those hippies are, I'll have to ask.
Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
01/03/11 23:29:55
81 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

http://australianrawqacao.com/australian-raw-qacao-cacao-fruit-bean

This site purports to sell raw organic Australian beans already.


updated by @Ice Blocks!: 01/24/15 16:14:51
Tom
@Tom
01/03/11 20:13:30
205 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Cocoa Australia nolonger exists there was some legal issues. However the plantations still exist and there are some exciting things hopefully to happen in 2011 up in FNQ. I can't say more as it is not my place, but I will when I can.
Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
12/31/10 15:09:12
81 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Not sure whether these guys can be classified as bean to bar yet but they seem to be heading in that direction.

Farm by Nature
Phone: 392128188
Website: http://www.farmbynature.com.au/

When it comes to the Cocoa itself, Farm By Nature is on the road ( through their sister company Cocoa Australia)
to grow Australias first cocoa Plantation in Far North Queensland.
The first of these little Aussie beans should be available in 2010 and used to create a unique Australian Cocoa Farm Range.

Casey
@Casey
12/31/10 14:11:19
54 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Well thank god somebody thought to include Trader Joe's!
Jcandy
@Jcandy
12/28/10 03:10:32
12 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Thank you for sharing this information about Bean to bar chocolate makers.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
12/27/10 12:48:30
1,698 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Just for fun, here is the ICCO (International Cocoa Organization) of "Chocolate Manufacturers." In looking at it I see:

  • None of the American craft chocolate makers on the list (e.g., Amano, Askinosie, Black Mountain, Cacao Atlanta, Escazu, Patric, Rogue, Theo ...).
  • Some other amazing oversights - Pralus, Bernachon, Debelis, Ambrosia, Belcolade,
  • Some companies that clearly don't belong on the list (Green and Black's - until recently, anyway, all G&B product was made by the Italian company ICAM; Astor, Asher's).
  • Does Scharffen Berger count any more (as manufacturing is supposedly done by Hershey). Dagoba as well?

It's not clear what the criteria are for inclusion. One very new company, AMMA (Brazil) is on the list.

Thoughts?

:: Clay

Bong Willy
@Bong Willy
12/16/10 19:28:21
7 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Hi Duffy

Yes, and I've read about you at Seventypercent.com, wanna taste yours too, but I can't order them from my country *sigh*

Someday when I can make it to Europe and UK, I will definitely go to your workshop to learn and taste some sample, if you don't mind :-)

Willy

Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
12/16/10 14:40:37
55 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I make chocolate from bean to bar in the UK - Red Star Chocolate. Clay has even tasted some of it...

Bong Willy
@Bong Willy
12/15/10 06:48:34
7 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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I've updated the database with Rogue Chocolatier, from Minneapolis, MN. The founder, is the youngest chocolate maker that I know, and if I'm not mistaken, Colin Gasko is also a TCL member too. Can't wait their chocolates, that I've ordered, arrive in my home in January :-p

ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
12/14/10 17:12:06
251 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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I guess I should have done more research on the internet first. I was only looking at the package which says in large bold letters on the front "El Ceibo Cooperative" then on the back "Made in Switzerland" and distributed by "Alter Eco Americas". Going by this information alone I thought it would be possible for the company to be bean to bar, made in Switzerland but distributed in the U.S. Now I wonder-- who actually makes the Bolivian beans into chocolate?

It turns out that Alter Eco is a French company started in 1999.

Clay, thanks clarifying this.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
12/14/10 11:26:08
1,698 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Lowe ... Alter Eco is a US-based product sourcing and marketing company. If the bars are made in Switzerland, then how can Alter Eco be bean to bar?

ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
12/14/10 07:17:50
251 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Is Alter Eco a bean to bar company?

I'm currently reviewing several of their bars. The beans are grown by the El Ceibo Cooperative in Bolivia and the chocolate is made " in the pure Swiss tradition " by someone in Switzerland.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
10/08/09 06:37:56
1,698 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Because of the spill over between this thread and the thread on enzymes in cacao I am temporarily closing this thread to further comments to give things a chance to calm down.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
10/08/09 06:34:46
1,698 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Steve -The fact that you're being grouped in with the Xocai folks can be laid, in part, at your doorstep. Your marketing of your product (and yourself) appeals to people who have already bought into your central concept. For people who have not already bought into the claims made for the raw lifestyle the claims you make - and the way you make them - comes across as unsubstantiated hype.Now there might be a real difference that makes a difference in what you do. And I, for one, am willing to do some heavy lifting and be patient, and try to understand. Many people will just dismiss it as being kooky or weird.What you may want to remember is that perception is reality for most people. And the perception that many people outside of the raw foodist community have is NOT the one you want them to have. Saying exactly the same things over and over and over again is not going to change their minds. If you are interested in winning them over you have to change the way you present your product, your company, and yourself.I say the following as a colleague and a friend - and as someone who has friends in the raw food and raw chocolate world:Now - you may not care about non-raw-foodists and from a business perspective I can understand that. However please understand that people are lumping you in with Xocai because they don't see any difference in the claims you are making and how you make them. Again - if you care - you are the only one who can move to change this perception. As I said, you may not care, but from my 15+ years of research into chocolate, chocolate marketing, and more, the burden is yours to convince us, not on us to understand you.
Sacred Steve
@Sacred Steve
10/06/09 23:08:42
116 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Jeez...I am now starting to "get" that I am starting to be grouped with the Xocai folks. PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF DOING THAT! I have been into raw foods since 1993, LONG before raw chocolate was promoted as a superfood by David Wolfe and his book on the subject, Naked Chocolate. David Wolfe was invited to become part of Xocai at their startup in about 2005, and he declined for reasons I will not mention.
Sacred Steve
@Sacred Steve
10/06/09 22:06:59
116 posts

Bean to bar chocolate makers


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Dear Samantha,Honestly, I am a chocolate newbie compared to you, and don't claim in any way to know as much as you do on the subject of chocolate. I only got started in 2005, and didn't finish building our factory until the end of 2006. That being said, I do have hard evidence on my claims of antioxidants done by an independent and reputable lab. The lab report is published on our website and I am happy to email it to you privately if you wish to see it. I am not trying to ram anything down anybody's throat and your negative response definitely is pointing out that you must be getting your buttons pushed or something? I am just standing up for what I believe in. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and that includes both you and me. You may know a lot more than me about chocolate, and the very idea that I may even know one thing that you do not I feel is upsetting you to the point that you feel you have to put me down. Hearts, Sacred Steve
updated by @Sacred Steve: 09/09/15 18:56:31
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